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Okunbor isn't the player I had hoped for. He may get better or might not. But if you've played the game he isn't Windy. . Not one of those players from both sides are Windy. You can't play rugby at that level if you are.

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Quote: hull2524 "Okunbor isn't the player I had hoped for. He may get better or might not. But if you've played the game he isn't Windy. . Not one of those players from both sides are Windy. You can't play rugby at that level if you are.'"


The thing is, there's windy and there's windy. Anyone who plays the game isn't soft, it's a tough way to earn a living. However, some players are definitely braver than others and he just seems to lack that willingness to put his body on the line imo. Maybe I've got him wrong, but if feels like he gets about the pitch and gets through a decent amount of work, but it's all a bit half hearted. You can't go through the motions in this game.

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Quote: Mr. Zucchini Head "I think there's the skeleton of a half decent team in there if only we start picking players in their proper positions and just start playing with a bit of pride. Maybe Rovers eased off a bit in the second half, I'm not sure, and I know we had the wind, but either way it was miles better from us, and if we had brought that from minute one we just might have given ourselves a chance.

Maybe it is a bit early to be making Charles the main man, but at the minute I don't see a better option. Smith tries hard but just isn't good enough, and if it wasn't already obvious that Brown should be at 9 then it certainly should be now. Tell Charles he's got the job until Trueman is back, and just him go and express himself and make mistakes and learn from them. I think he's really got something, but he needs the exposure at this level to be able to develop.

If we can avoid our props being banned all the time I think we can do OK. Ese'ese and Pele were a handful when they were on together. Pele has a lot to work on but I'm sure there's a player in there somewhere.

A lot of people call Okunbor lazy. I think he's just a little bit soft. He seems reluctant to do the tough stuff, and doesn't seem at all keen on putting himself in places where he knows it's going to hurt. He makes a lot of tackles, but he's windy. I'm not sure that's something that you are ever going to be able to change.'"



I’d suggest 3 runs for 58 meters and thats inflated with a charge down is pretty lazy, first carry in the 31st minute for a second rower is a disgrace.

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Quote: The games afoot "Will he be still brilliant when he hasn’t delivered a trophy….your nowhere near the level of Sts or Wigan,Warrington have already done you..Catalan are a better team so your stuck in the middle teams as for us…yes we are a bottom 2 team but not long ago you wasn’t even a S/L team but got to your heady heights by rebuilding and we will as well….so don’t get to cocky pal as it doesn’t last at all.You choked in a final and then got a absolute battering in another semi final…end of the day mate…no matter where both teams finish in league,it’s a results business and we will both win nowt.At least we have won something in the last 39 years'"


Sadly this constant living in the past is probably the reason your in this mess. Every single Rovers supporter is more than happy to keep progressing bit by bit, year on year. As for Hull they are lower than Rovers have ever been without the huge safety net of a points system you are facing oblivion.

What astounds me the most is why Hull fans buy the rhetoric and propaganda spines by Pearson every year and now his apprentice Tony Smith.

If and it’s a big if Pearson is telling the truth he has spent to cap, Smith should be sacked now buying the misfits he as.

3-5 years of this would destroy the most hardened supporters but that’s what the future holds for you.

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Quote: The Cooke Report "Sadly this constant living in the past is probably the reason your in this mess. Every single Rovers supporter is more than happy to keep progressing bit by bit, year on year. As for Hull they are lower than Rovers have ever been without the huge safety net of a points system you are facing oblivion.

What astounds me the most is why Hull fans buy the rhetoric and propaganda spines by Pearson every year and now his apprentice Tony Smith.

If and it’s a big if Pearson is telling the truth he has spent to cap, Smith should be sacked now buying the misfits he as.
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3-5 years of this would destroy the most hardened supporters but that’s what the future holds for you.'"
We appreciate you concern. Now jog off there's a good lad

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Quote: RockNRolla "If you have read Gaz Eliis's book you'll know that Grix was brought in becuase Smith was taking a step back from hands on day to day coaching.'"


So he can get his mid morning nap

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Quote: Markyboy69 "I was told ( and someone might tell me differently, thats fine) that kr had gone thru several physio's this season already due to not a nice environent to work in !'"


Oh poor things
Could it be that they were not considered to be up to the job that the coach demanded.
Say what you like about HKR they are miles ahead of us,not just financially but in quality players and a no nonsense coach who has the team very fit and made them difficult to beat with a tough defence.

Take a note tinkering Tony Tough defence

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Quote: The Cooke Report "Sadly this constant living in the past is probably the reason your in this mess. Every single Rovers supporter is more than happy to keep progressing bit by bit, year on year. As for Hull they are lower than Rovers have ever been without the huge safety net of a points system you are facing oblivion.

What astounds me the most is why Hull fans buy the rhetoric and propaganda spines by Pearson every year and now his apprentice Tony Smith.

If and it’s a big if Pearson is telling the truth he has spent to cap, Smith should be sacked now buying the misfits he as.

3-5 years of this would destroy the most hardened supporters but that’s what the future holds for you.'"


Possibly agree with most of what you say, these are tough times and we are certainly second best in the City. However, from a club that sang you'll never win at Wembley for 30 years living on a win in 1980 then 'Sadly this constant living in the past' is certainly hypocritical and a bit rich. Pretty good Trolling but be careful what you say.

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I've been on the internet and have already got a sense of the fans' passion for the club. They are very fanatical - Peter Gentle 12th September 2011. Money doesn't talk it swears, Obscenity who really cares, Propaganda all is phony. I'm the son and heir of a shyness which is criminally vulgar. Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way. A man who lives in hell can still aspire to heaven.:cartoons/WB17.gif



Quote: The Cooke Report " As for Hull they are lower than Rovers have ever been.'"


Between 1994-2006 hull kr were a second division club, in fact in 1995/96 they were a third division club!
During that TWELVE year period hull kr flirted with disappearing into oblivion on more than one occasion, do the letters CVA mean anything to you?

Now, obviously, it's not going too well for us at the minute, but as we are tenth in the SL table we are not, therefore, a second division club, let alone a third division outfit as hull kr were in 1995/96.

Hence, your above statement is factually incorrect!

(Don't you just hate it when simple incontrovertible facts disprove flawed arguments!).

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Quote: BP1 "Between 1994-2006 hull kr were a second division club, in fact in 1995/96 they were a third division club!
During that TWELVE year period hull kr flirted with disappearing into oblivion on more than one occasion, do the letters CVA mean anything to you?

Now, obviously, it's not going too well for us at the minute, but as we are tenth in the SL table we are not, therefore, a second division club, let alone a third division outfit as hull kr were in 1995/96.

Hence, your above statement is factually incorrect!

(Don't you just hate it when simple incontrovertible facts disprove flawed arguments!).'"


I remember the days Rovers temporarily became known as Hull CVA. I found it amusing up until the point it emerged local a charity were given 15p against every pound they were promised. As low as we are we haven't scaled the depths our neighbours have.

They are years ahead of us. They have brought in a good coach who has nailed his recruitment and they should be very optimistic. I'm envious, significantly.

I'm not personally in despair. I think we are a good coaching appointment who recruits well away from steadying the ship. It's that simple.

The less-so-simple aspect is our owner is out of his depth. He's not a crisis manager and I fear to pig-headed to do what is required. That's perhaps a little flippant, but as he's a none communicator we can only deduce our own conclusions on the the little comms we get.

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Quote: BP1 "Between 1994-2006 hull kr were a second division club, in fact in 1995/96 they were a third division club!
During that TWELVE year period hull kr flirted with disappearing into oblivion on more than one occasion, do the letters CVA mean anything to you?

Now, obviously, it's not going too well for us at the minute, but as we are tenth in the SL table we are not, therefore, a second division club, let alone a third division outfit as hull kr were in 1995/96.

Hence, your above statement is factually incorrect!

(Don't you just hate it when simple incontrovertible facts disprove flawed arguments!).'"


I remember the days Rovers temporarily became known as Hull CVA. I found it amusing up until the point it emerged local a charity were given 15p against every pound they were promised. As low as we are we haven't scaled the depths our neighbours have.

They are years ahead of us. They have brought in a good coach who has nailed his recruitment and they should be very optimistic. I'm envious, significantly.

I'm not personally in despair. I think we are a good coaching appointment who recruits well away from steadying the ship. It's that simple.

The less-so-simple aspect is our owner is out of his depth. He's not a crisis manager and I fear to pig-headed to do what is required. That's perhaps a little flippant, but as he's a none communicator we can only deduce our own conclusions on the the little comms we get.

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Did HCC "gift" Caravan Park and the surrounding land to them or did they purchase it for a nominal fee? This deal was undoubtedly the catalyst for their resurgence. What is preventing HCC giving us and the Tigers a similar leg up at the MKM?

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Is it true that Adam and Stan Gene got face to face angry after the game ?

Pele and Lane had 6 metres between them in the Derby

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The problem KR have is there youth setups are simply not good enough and the constant spending isnt sustainable. Sooner or later the money men will demand more. Many money people try to buy the trophies in SL and it never happens.

I see them like we was from 2002 to 2005, we would beat teams below us with ease but could never beat the top teams. For me they still have way to go to be considered a top team in this competition. Be interesting to see how they get on over the next few months, the fixture list has being kind to them at the moment which has allowed them to generate some good momentum.

However all said comparing ourselves to the noisy neighbours doesnt help our situation, we need to focus on ourselves and not what is going on elsewhere.

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Quote: EtonStreetRifle "Did HCC "gift" Caravan Park and the surrounding land to them or did they purchase it for a nominal fee? This deal was undoubtedly the catalyst for their resurgence. What is preventing HCC giving us and the Tigers a similar leg up at the MKM?'"


Craven Park will have been purchased for a price that the council demonstrated fairly reflects its value. To do otherwise would be illegal/get blocked. Rovers acquired (I guess bought but cba to check back) options to purchase parcels of the surrounding land but haven’t exercised that option… or at least haven’t announced it if they have.

Given the different circumstances of the MKM and its tenants, I’m not sure what a similar leg up would look like. I’m sure the council would love to sell the stadium for a fair market value but I doubt City (never mind Hull FC) are going to make an offer. In terms of maybe sweetening the tenancy, they’ll want to keep that as arms length as possible. Councils across the country are struggling to deliver basic services, so the last thing they’ll want to do is take on additional costs or offer de facto subsidies.

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