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Quote: leeds owl "I don’t know if Rohan Smith has encouraged a “passive” style of defence and if he has actually coached systems to that effect. If he has he should be on his bike right now because it’s the daftest thing I’ve ever heard in my life and it’s clearly not working. I’m thinking we look passive because the players aren’t physically strong enough and lack endurance therefore they end up on the back foot getting steamrollered towards their own line. It’s the same when we are trying to get off our own line, like little boys in year 3 trying to compete and get past the bigger lads in year 5. I think if anything is being coached to be “passive” it’s our attacking strategy in the opponents half, and that’s what annoys me about Rohan Smith. The buck stops with him on that one, and that’s what annoys a lot of fans.'"

Our line speed has been p* poor at times, I don't like that don't get me wrong. But it hasn't been all the time - our D looks worse IMO primarily because errors and penalties keep putting us in rubbish positions.

We have had spells in attack where we end sets better than last year with a nice attacking kick, but I thought against Wire we weren't as good - aside from the nice kicks from Croft to Roberts and Frawley for Newman.

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The line speed noticeably improves in the second half.
Which makes it feel like a deliberate tactic.
Soak up the pressure in the first half and then apply pressure in the second when there are tired legs.

Will occasionally work against poorer teams or teams not in form (see Cas, Leigh, Cats games).
Won't work against better teams or teams bang in form (see Saints and Wire games).

Not a sustainable strategy for me.
I'm all for trying new things, but if things don't work you have to adapt and be prepared to change.
Not sure with RS on that front.

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it's 100% a tactic despite what some claim. an absolutley stupid one!

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Well, Warrington have just put a similar score on against Saints. Are Saints just as bad as us now?

When they started with the short kick-offs I did start to wonder icon_wink.gif

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Someone on here when we lost said we got battered by a team who won't even make the top six. Warrington look like the real deal this year if they carry this form through to the end of the year.

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They’ve a big pack, some very good halves and a good coach. Look good this season.

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They do look a decent side. But IMO its serious whataboutery to suggest that makes our performance against them somehow better. We need to be getting wins against some of the the best teams, particularly at home.

So far we look like one of the sides that will end up somewhere between 5th and 8th, and that's quite a competitive set of teams we're in amongst as well. Even Leigh, who've dropped more games than us and are 9th, have an almost identical for and against points record. We're a long, long way from being one of the 'big' teams in the comp this year.

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just shows how important it is to get the right coach in, not just a cheap.or project option.

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Quote: tad rhino "just shows how important it is to get the right coach in, not just a cheap.or project option.'"


Is Burgess not a project option? He has less experience than Smith.

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but doing a million times better....

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I think its far too early to consider whether Burgess will be a success or failure.

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Warrington have an excellent squad, with an owner with lots of resources. It's a perfect job for a rookie coach. Especially someone like SB who's more of a motivator, than a technician

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Quote: MrPotatoHead "Someone on here when we lost said we got battered by a team who won't even make the top six. Warrington look like the real deal this year if they carry this form through to the end of the year.'"


True and after a flakey start they seem to be building towards some good performances, we on the other hand are making the same errors week after week and look to be treading water.

Who knows what we will turn in this week, this could be the game where we click and go on to a great performance / run but for me we a far, far too inconsistent team week to week and tbf in most games too.

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Quote: Jack Burton "Warrington have an excellent squad, with an owner with lots of resources. It's a perfect job for a rookie coach. Especially someone like SB who's more of a motivator, than a technician'"


But they've always splashed the cash Jack.
And it hasn't worked out.
Didn't it start well for both Price and Powell and then both fell off a cliff?
As some others have said, it's way too early to judge Burgess yet.
They're on the crest of a wave just now.
Remember Smith got us to the GF and all other teams were looking over in envy as though we had found the real deal.
No-one would take him off us now.

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