Unfortunately
We do not have any.
Big Mick .
Awesome specimen of a human but not a Leeds rhino starting prop.
Lots of posters on here will not agree but as already been mentioned unless you have played Rugby Leage it’s hard to understand.
Tommy not ready yet but will get there .
French Lads.
Not Leeds standard.
Most people on here bag Bentley. Although not a prop
is the only man in this forward pack that I would love to play beside me.
If you played you would get this.
Whose fault is this after the Golden generation.
Garry’s .
Our backs can not play behind this pack and win anything.
We needs to have a coach that Garry can not control to win anything.

absolutely spot on there mate,totally agree with you

We lack the aggression to dominate other packs, the only one that seems to have it is Bentley who is a bit small to deliver it. Put it this way, which members of our pack would we want to sign if they played for other clubs. As far as props go, we have Mik who has been a cornerstone, and Holroyd who is coming through, but the other options Sangare and Lisone don’t have enough impact for long enough. Beyond that we are into small former second rowers and juniors. The front row is still 2 props short as I would probably cut Sangare if he can’t get fit enough and concentrate long enough to play his size for longer.

Leeds had a reputation for having a soft pack until we brought in Faz and Fleary and signed Glanville, then we had one of my brightest days as a Loiner / Rhino when the RFL wrote to the club to ask us to stop tackling so hard. What I would give for a letter like that these days…

Yeah, it’s obvious especially after last two games. But not unexpected either…..

This forum is descending into farce honestly. Genuinely thought the OP was satire.

Do you not think it was pretty pathetic, how easily Walmsley bullied our whole pack? Been happening for years…..

dare to criticise its satire....
terrible to have a different opinion.
isn't that what a forum is for?
reasoned differing opinions

Yup. As long as no personal insults, and we just analyse performance etc, it’s fine imho….

Yup. As long as no personal insults, and we just analyse performance etc, it’s fine imho….

I agree the first choice props are not delivering as we would like (including Lisone). And yet Oledski, Ackers and Holroyd have been capped by England in recent years... Potentially a starting England front row once Walmsley retires. Wane likes hard men, does he not?

Maybe we should have signed Mickey Mac, Dudson and Kasiano?

Given Oledski and Holroyd are two homegrown props with years ahead of them, what would we say if they went on to better things for other clubs (like Mulhern and others) and we have to resort to signing expensive NRL flops like Tetevano again?

I don't think the OP is wrong at all. Oledzki and Holroyd aren't England regulars, and against Sts you can see why. I'm not suggesting we should get rid, but they need to play a lot better than Friday if we're to do anything against Sts or Wigan. Holroyd looked great at the start of last year but faded and now looks completely average. Oledzki looked good last week, but couldn't follow it up. Not sure there's anything wrong with pointing that out? If it was a one-off maybe, but far too often when it counts our pack gets pushed around and we win in spite of them not because of them.

Our front row is just not damaging enough with the ball. Lisone can be in spells, but the rest are just too easy to stop or put down. The inability to dent the line in a serious way means slow PTBs, lack of field position (worse as its compounded by a defence that's seemingly happy to let opponents make huge yardage) and its one of the reasons we struggle to score from close in. There's no real threat of one of our forwards smashing their way over, so defences can get set and wait for the ball to be spread without committing too many tacklers into the ruck.

When you then add a back row with little or no physical presence with the ball, its no wonder we're struggling to score a lot of points.

I know he won't do it, but IMO Smith should move to get Ruan and TNW into the 17 as often as possible. Given the options we have I don't see where else the physicality we lack is going to come from. A complete change of mindset could work, but I doubt our forwards as a group have the sort of mongrel we need in them.

Our back row is very predictable too, despite odd class game from Martin. Very rare to see a forward break the line….

We were and still are crying out for an enforcer to lead from the front someone who the opposition are wary of like JWH who dominated the South's pack not all Nrl imports are flops just the one's Rohan signs.

I wonder if JWH knows the rules are changing next season.

Exactly this namby pamby view totally killing our great game meanwhile in Australia