What exactly is “something in the playoffs”? A victory and then getting knocked out? A battling defeat to Huddersfield? It’s so vague and far-reaching. Leeds should be aiming to win the grand final, every season. Is that realistic? Not in reality, but that should be the aspiration.

So nowhere this season and then top 4 next season, that’s your aim? That would mean it had taken Smith 3 full seasons to simply get us in the top 4. That’s absurd. Again, people are obsessed with this long, drawn out arduous transition period.

Wigan have a model of bringing through their own coaches. Saints have always been able to find the best from overseas willing to join SL. Smith is neither, he’s meh, nothingness.

This got embarrassing a year ago.

Anyone other than the bottom 3 sides we see playing us as a guaranteed 2 points.

We are just awful and going backwards.
Doubt We will remove Smith before season end but that’s another year completely wasted.

Leeds look a really well drilled outfit where every player knows their role.

I wish it was true but they don’t have a clue what they are doing, the coaching is a disgrace.

Saints next week looks like it could be a bad one.

In pre season most agreed he should only be judged after 10-12 games, iirc I thought that was fair given the big squad changes.

Saints will be game 12.

This year feels like last year,so far. The same issues / problems in the same areas on the field. It's a big list,I won't bother writing it as we all know them ( though reasons why differ fir various posters).

Saints is a huge ask, honestly I'd be happy with a good performance even if we lost but I cant even see that.

John Wilkin really grinds my gears, but everything he said in last nights game broadcast was in the money and he summed up everything thats wrong with the team.