Our back row is very predictable too, despite odd class game from Martin. Very rare to see a forward break the line….

We were and still are crying out for an enforcer to lead from the front someone who the opposition are wary of like JWH who dominated the South's pack not all Nrl imports are flops just the one's Rohan signs.

I wonder if JWH knows the rules are changing next season.

Exactly this namby pamby view totally killing our great game meanwhile in Australia

It's been pointed out loads about our pack issues.
MIk and Holroyd supported by big fellas that play shorter stints but have a much bigger impact is what we need.
The lack of strike power,offload or brute force in the back row is an issue too.

When we signed Goudemand,Hudson and re-signed Donaldson and Bentley it was obvious none of those issues would be addressed.
Same with Fusitua and needing a winger who plays more than 50% of games to the required standard.

Even with Myler and Olpherts leaving we won't have enough to fix owt mid season so it's hoping that GH and RS can pull another few big signings at the end of the season to fix the pack and wing

The problem by the way isn't really with any individual player. Bentley's a grafter in defence. McDonnell works hard and runs good lines, so does Martin. Sangare draws in defenders even if he doesn't break the line. Lisone can be a wrecking ball against a back-pedalling defence. Etc etc. But as a group they are too small and have poor go-forward, and they don't make up for that by aggressive defence as a unit.

Faz n Fleary original Bash Brothers.
Awesome .
Glanville was my hero he used to cut the opposition in two with clean hard tackling .

A more experienced prop to lead the pack would be good, but likely to come at a premium. Let's not forget we've been looking for this player since Peacock retired.

Young Delaney for Saints isn't massive but he's clearly better than your starting props at present? He's only 20.

That's probably a fair assessment at the moment Oledski is too nice and I don't know what's happened to Holroyd seems to have lost his bite.

Letting Dupree go was another great choice too.

I’d only keep Oledzki out of the main four props if there were better options available. If Lisone and Sangare are classed as “impact” props, the only impact they have on me is raising my blood pressure. Lisone gets bullied by better teams and his stamina is poor. I would also question his work ethic at times. Sangare is another one with low stamina, and his impact isn’t big enough for his minutes on the field. Holroyd for whatever reason can’t seem to bend the line, but I wouldn’t question the lad’s effort. How we beat the big teams with a poor pack is unfathomable really.

I honestly think we went into this season 2 props short.
Holroyd is too young and Sangare is not fit enough for either to be in the regular 4 rotation.
For me, they should be 5th and 6th props, and would still get plenty of game time.
Goudemand is a back row and should have been Donaldsons replacement.

Said it many times, but we lost Tetevano and Walters and did not adequately replace either of them.
Anyway, we are where we are so we have to make do with what we've got for now.

Pretty much spot on.

Also consider Mik is coming back from a shoulder op and struggling for form still.
Holroyd os young and really struggled towards end of last season.

Priorities were elsewhere and clearly someone thought / hoped that we could manage with shortage better than we are.

I still think we are doing better than last year, beating saints in the cup was always a tough ask.