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Quote: Zig "Hill’s footwork at the line is fantastic. I am surprised that it has taken so long for him to get a start as he is a big favourite of the coach.'"


He seems to have put on quite a bit of muscle during preseason and he looks a lot stronger.
He’s from good stock and that with Peet’s guidance I can see him as a regular in the starting 17 from next season irrespective of who is available.
I was really pleased when we signed Eseh but Hill looks the better prospect of the two at the moment but obviously Eseh’s injury may be preventing him showing how he his developing.
With Havard, Hill and Eseh we have some incredible potential in the front row.

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Quote: Trainman "It’s good to see though I did think that would be classed as a shoulder charge.

Before I stopped watching football a good 15-20 years ago I said that any player running in on the ref like that should get an automatic 1 match ban. I’d like to see that in RL. Give an 1 match ban to any player going into the ref appealing for decisions, sticking hands in the air to try and get someone sin binned etc. Would soon stop them.'"


For me, the only players who should be allowed to speak to or approach the ref are the captains

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Definitely agree about players encroaching the referee and a ban. Thewlis should have been made to leave the field.'"


I’d love to know if Thewlis actually had an issue. On the replay Lisone seemed to miss him completely but maybe O’Connor got a piece of him in the front on challenge. Either way, lads running in and Williams running towards the referee for a guy trying to put a shot on is ridiculous. Williams was vocal on the disciplinary but he can’t have it all ways and that goes for the players in general. They think the disciplinary are OTT (and they’re right) but they’re also prepared to roll over and play dead, scream at the referee etc and try to get players sin binned/sent off.

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Quote: Cherry_&_White "I think the four you mention are the ones who deserve their places as things stand. Certainly the first three - Cooper's injuries come into consideration now and there are others not far behind.

Thinking about how they complement each other though, Thompson Dupree and Havard are all comfortable playing big minutes, so it begs the question whether Mago offering something different for half an hour or so adds more than someone with a better engine and more solid defender? From where we are now I think he probably does, but that will probably become clearer as the season goes on.

It really is an embarrassment of riches though. Hill looks as good as prospect for his age as any front rower I've seen in this country for a long time.'"


For sure Hill is already beyond "prospect" and looking like a reliable prop. He was immense in the Academy and Reserves and has developed physically this off-season. Scarily, he has not had the opportunity to really show his great footwork and passing just yet. Usually props are in their mid-20s before having the necessary strength to play every week - Harvie seems to be there already.

Well done to the club for having a really good age profile for the props, perhaps with Cooper approaching retirement and Hill just beginning and plenty inbetween.!

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Quote: Simba16 "For sure Hill is already beyond "prospect" and looking like a reliable prop. He was immense in the Academy and Reserves and has developed physically this off-season. Scarily, he has not had the opportunity to really show his great footwork and passing just yet. Usually props are in their mid-20s before having the necessary strength to play every week - Harvie seems to be there already.

Well done to the club for having a really good age profile for the props, perhaps with Cooper approaching retirement and Hill just beginning and plenty inbetween.!'"


Totally agree, and so prospect is probably not quite the right word. But the ceiling of what he could be in five or six years is scary to think.

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Correct. I think you have to laud the young players' mentality at our club too. They are obviously being taught and told when their time will come and patience will pay off. Hopefully there is a big poster of Matty Nicholson in the youth dressing room with text underneath along the lines of 'This is what happens when you chase the money, no more big contracts and no honours, just another painter and decorator who used to play a bit'

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