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27542_1296773722.jpg RICHARDS IS SUPERMAN!!!!
Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_27542.jpg |
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| Stu and YG, sorry if it’s been covered but what’s your thoughts on Dodd leaving?
A bit of a blow but nowhere near the loss Welsby would have been. Not in the same league as him as a talent.
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| Quote: Stu M "It's a difficult one as the physical differences in RL compared to football is a big factor. The likes of Giggs/Foden/Palmer all came through as skinny lads (or in Foden's case small) but their lack of physicality wasn't as important.
Everyone in RL knew Nsemba was going to be special and I posted on here two years ago after watching Farrimond play against Saints in an U16 Scholars game to say that he looks a once in a generational talent. However that leads me onto the answer to your question- in that same game Harry Robertson played for us and was also outstanding. Him and Farrimond were the best two players on the pitch.
I've seen Robertson a few times to know he will come through but when is the issue, he's tall but still looks gangly and if he played first team could easily get swatted aside. He has a gait similar to Ponga and switches between 1 and 6.
The two half backs George Whitby and Will Roberts are highly rated but Roberts is just back from a 12 month ACL. I saw the highlights from Cas last week and Robertson and Whitby ran the show, literally everything went through them. I would think that these two are the next "cabs off the rank" so to speak. I believe the plan is for Whitby to train full time from July after his studies are finished.
The other one who has come through and has a first team number this season is Noah Stephens. He's a giant of a lad and made his debut at Cas in the game where Makinson was sent off. He had a great cameo however its hard to judge in a game where we were so dominant. He does have the physical size though and was literally a man against boys when he played at Academy level. I know Zig has some reservations about him.
The other one I mentioned earlier- Owen Dagnall plays on the wing and played for Lancashire and England Academy scoring a few tries. He looks quick and knows where the line is.
We'll need some good lads coming through as unfortunately for us Wigan look very strong. I turned off after 20 mins on Saturday and went to the gym even in the heat we had
I’ve no doubt that some of the lads you have named Stu will make the grade but they need some experienced bodies around them and, more often than not, they need drip feeding into the team. Regarding Stephens, I do have some reservations but he could easily prove me wrong but it all depends on whether he is too dependent on his size.
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| What are your reservations regarding Stephens Zig?
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| Quote: Stu M "Yeah I agree. I don't think we will have 4-5 that will be playing first team next year at the same time. The successes we've had has been when they have been drip-fed into the first team. Welsby was a good example of this and how he had more appearances each season in different positions. Dodd was used cleverly by Woolf when he came through, he got 10-15 mins a game at 9 to get him up to speed to SL and tackling the bigger bodies in the middle.
If someone gave me £100 to make a charity bet with I'd say Robertson and Vaughan would be my two bankers. This isn't counting Stephens who has already made his debut and in the 21 man squad most weeks.
To be fair to Wigan though- the likes of Eckersely and Forber are mentioned a lot and rated highly so I don't think anyone from Saints is being held up the same as Farrimond.'"
Woolf followed the model Wigan used with regard to Williams. Personally, I would give every prospective half back a run at hooker to toughen them up and improve their defensive technique.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "3 seems more realistic, at least historically. You've just brought up an interesting point though. Eckersley and Forbar are a couple years ahead of Farrimond so I don't really think of them as the same generation. Both are more "first team ready and waiting for their opportunity" so to speak. Is this the same for the Saints lads? What is the age spread?'"
Vaughan is 19. Robertson and Whitby are 17/18. I checked for their ages on the club site but none given, I'm basing this on the fact they both played for the Scholars in 2022.
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| Quote: Zig "Woolf followed the model Wigan used with regard to Williams. Personally, I would give every prospective half back a run at hooker to toughen them up and improve their defensive technique.'"
Yeah good shout, I remember that Wigan did that with Williams.
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