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| This is exactly why I've been banging the drum about Saints not being the enemy. Rivals? 100% yes, but they aren't the enemy to us.
This is other side of success that successful RL sides have to deal with. It's almost inevitable that, after a period of success, the NRL will come knocking. Why wouldn't they too? They (the NRL) are obviously looking for talented lads, but also ones who've had a rugby education in an environment that's as close to the NRL as you can get. That's us and that'd Saints.
Lord knows the NRL have raided us & it isn't fun, or funny now it's happening to them.
The two clubs need to work closer imo. F the rest of SL and how they continually fail to invest or aspire for better. Politic if needs be. Absolutely run roughshod too. Just do whatever is best for Wigan and Saints as, ultimately, that's what's good for RL.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "What are your reservations regarding Stephens Zig?'"
I am not sure that he is mobile enough or that his size will be a major asset when playing first team. He reminds me of Samy Kibula. Obviously, the lad may prove me wrong. Good luck to him.
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| Quote: Zig "I am not sure that he is mobile enough or that his size will be a major asset when playing first team. He reminds me of Samy Kibula. Obviously, the lad may prove me wrong. Good luck to him.'"
That's often the problem when a player is stepping up from a level where they have obvious physical advantages. I suppose it depends to a large degree on attitude. I think Junior is showing that at the moment. I haven't seen Stephens play so can't comment on him individually but I think that goes for most young players regardless of size. Attitude is everything.
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Quote: Zig "I am not sure that he is mobile enough or that his size will be a major asset when playing first team. He reminds me of Samy Kibula. Obviously, the lad may prove me wrong. Good luck to him.'"
That’s interesting about his mobility because in this article Derek Traynor, who knows him better than anyone, talks about this speed being a strength of his. Admittedly I’ve only seen him at Castleford the other week but he certainly looked like he could move a bit for a big lad too.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ne ... -st-helens
Now you’ve probably seen much more of him than I have but he doesn’t sound like there’s any concerns internally about his mobility.
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Quote: Zig "I am not sure that he is mobile enough or that his size will be a major asset when playing first team. He reminds me of Samy Kibula. Obviously, the lad may prove me wrong. Good luck to him.'"
That’s interesting about his mobility because in this article Derek Traynor, who knows him better than anyone, talks about this speed being a strength of his. Admittedly I’ve only seen him at Castleford the other week but he certainly looked like he could move a bit for a big lad too.
https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ne ... -st-helens
Now you’ve probably seen much more of him than I have but he doesn’t sound like there’s any concerns internally about his mobility.
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| Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "That’s interesting about his mobility because in this article Derek Traynor, who knows him better than anyone, talks about this speed being a strength of his. Admittedly I’ve only seen him at Castleford the other week but he certainly looked like he could move a bit for a big lad too.
Mobility and speed are two different things in my book. But hey I am happy to be proved wrong, time will tell. However, I think it is always dangerous to big young lads up, the expectation can become overwhelming.
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| I’ve seen Stephen’s once against Wigans academy and we couldn’t deal with him tbh. Will that translate to the first team? Who knows but it’s not going to give him any less of a chance having that sort of physical presence.
What I will say though is that big lads have dominated at academy level before and not been able to translate it to first team rugby. The most devastating academy performances I can recall were from Ryan Bailey at Leeds and he never managed it. I’m not saying he had a bad career, far from it but he was killing teams at that level, going over, through or round players for fun but in the first team he ended up making a career more as a grafter and wind up merchant.
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