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| all coaches get stick when they are failing badly. in any sport.
its just an effort to deflect attention from the crap being served up on the pitch
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| Looks like Jason Demetriou is free soon
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| It's clear RS has lost a lot of the fan base.
The London game should show if he's lost the players/ team.
He has to be able to get the team playing well for the majority of the 80mins in the majority of games.
No sign of that has occurred yet, albeit with certain mitigating circumstances.
If we win, it already feels like it's just papering over big cracks. If we lose then that will be another low point to deal with
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| Quote: Emagdnim13 "It's clear RS has lost a lot of the fan base.
The London game should show if he's lost the players/ team.
He has to be able to get the team playing well for the majority of the 80mins in the majority of games.
No sign of that has occurred yet, albeit with certain mitigating circumstances.
If we win, it already feels like it's just papering over big cracks. If we lose then that will be another low point to deal with'"
Genuine question - When was the last time Leeds put in a full 80mins?
I cant remember when we have - I reckon it was under him on our run to the GF.
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| Dave Furner might be caretaker coach at Souths if Demetriou goes...
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Genuine question - When was the last time Leeds put in a full 80mins?
I cant remember when we have - I reckon it was under him on our run to the GF.'"
Years. But I did say majority and not full. Playing well to good for 60 mins will see more wins than losses
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| Quote: Emagdnim13 "Years. But I did say majority and not full. Playing well to good for 60 mins will see more wins than losses'"
Sorry, I didnt mean it to sound like I was demanding an answer from you , it was more of a genuine opine about how lax (IMHO) we've become accustomed to.
I agree 60 mins would usually lead to a lot more wins but I cant say we are even anywhere near that level which is appalling.
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| I think Smith is aware that his job is vulnerable. I was intrigued by his comment that ‘the club’ have decided to let the youth come through, rather than spending (I paraphrase). This can only be directed at Gary. If so then I think Gary has to give him ( a bit ) more time. The crisis may come if a few senior players organise a delegation to speak to Gary.
We can all be guilty of over-reading between the lines but I have noticed that no player ever refers to the manager. Often when a team is under-performing you would see players publicly backing the manager - but we aren’t seeing of that.
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| Quote: Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino "Sorry, I didnt mean it to sound like I was demanding an answer from you , it was more of a genuine opine about how lax (IMHO) we've become accustomed to.
I agree 60 mins would usually lead to a lot more wins but I cant say we are even anywhere near that level which is appalling.'"
No need to apologise, I didn't take it that way . I just try be clear when there are two very opposing camps .
Agreed,also. The lack of consistency is worrying across the board. Tackling / defence / passing / leadership / smarts/kicking/ etc means we put in random performances that frustrate fans.
I'm on the fence. There is no point sacking RS unless we have a top quality guy to come in straight away. Someone with a plan, set goals and so on.
Given how many coaches we have run through in 5 years and obvious on field issues I can't see a top guy wanting the job until we are more stable.
However, RS doesn't fill me with confidence with the post match comments, failure to implement any structure or get the team to stop the stupid repetitive behaviour evident in every game.
Something just isn't clicking / working and RS needs to figure it out. If he can't then we are up the creek
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| I thought Smith's press conference was better today, mainly because he was being asked some of the questions they seem to have been avoiding. I'm not sure why none of them push back on his comments when he suggests a poor performance was good/acceptable though.
The issues with a new coach are very valid. It would be far better if Smith can turn things around. But some of these opportunities to reboot things need to be taken. Huddersfield was a chance after a 2-week turnaround, Hull was a chance because they're a really poor team, London is chance because they are a Championship team in SL. After this we play some decent teams in consecutive weeks. Another sloppy win against London followed by two defeats - potentially big ones - would really leave us in the mire almost halfway through the season.
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| I imagine it's more likely they will beat London, possibly less convincingly than might be expected, and then come up with a pair of creditable performances after that. Assuming the team has a few players back from injury anyway.
It's not a unique phenomenon but Smith's teams really do perform much better when they are underdogs.
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| Quote: Emagdnim13 "No need to apologise, I didn't take it that way
Yeah pretty much where I'm at.
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| Quote: Once were Loiners "I thought Smith's press conference was better today, mainly because he was being asked some of the questions they seem to have been avoiding. I'm not sure why none of them push back on his comments when he suggests a poor performance was good/acceptable though.
The issues with a new coach are very valid. It would be far better if Smith can turn things around. But some of these opportunities to reboot things need to be taken. Huddersfield was a chance after a 2-week turnaround, Hull was a chance because they're a really poor team, London is chance because they are a Championship team in SL. After this we play some decent teams in consecutive weeks. Another sloppy win against London followed by two defeats - potentially big ones - would really leave us in the mire almost halfway through the season.'"
He got soft-soaped on that presser for the large majority of it.
He really needs putting under some better scrutiny because some of those answers were giving off major "Jesse Marsch Vibes"
This is RL and I suppose you dont want to be blacklisted from stuff I suppose but I found myself shaking my head at some of the "answers" he put forth to questions.
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| Quote: MjM "I imagine it's more likely they will beat London, possibly less convincingly than might be expected, and then come up with a pair of creditable performances after that. Assuming the team has a few players back from injury anyway.
It's not a unique phenomenon but Smith's teams really do perform much better when they are underdogs.'"
The nature of being underdogs is that you generally need to be not winning and playing poorly to get the moniker.
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