My assumption is that Smith can’t grasp what some other managers grasp. Big difference. I assume you don’t rate Rob Oates or his work at Headingley because he never played the game , or does he get a free pass from you ? I don’t know if your “lack of respect for expertise and experience” is related to Leeds Rhinos, Rugby League or life in general. If it’s the latter , people are more than ever entitled to question people who rely on their supposed expertise and experience to earn a living. There are some dangerous people out there who trade on those two supposed attributes. As for carrying my own cross, I think you’ve been listening to too many JJB podcasts.

It’s not just results anymore with Smith. It’s the performances. They win the next 4 games, but are they bumbling through games with the same problems, it’s just that the result happens to go our way?

Or are we starting to look like a well oiled machine? The context matters, not just the results themselves.

You have hair?!?!

I am actually generous and patient my friend - but RS tenure is going to be verging on untenable if we lose - particularly if we lose badly to Cas.

Frawley needs a good game tomorrow and so does Miller.

If you came into this season expecting a top-4 year with silverware chances, well we’re just not there. Nothing you’re likely to see this year from now on is going to satisfy you, and I don’t personally think a change of coach now will get us there either.

I came in hoping for a top half finish, and therefore I’m a little more relaxed because I still think we’re a decent chance of that, we’ll see.

Next year, I’ll be totally with anyone who expects us to be a strong top 4 side, because we should have fixed the remaining holes in the squad, and the young players we have will be a year more mature/ better. I can only see us being better in 2025. In fact there are some cracking players coming through who I’m looking forward to see make first grade.

I’m not convinced about some of our approach to games either. We look a mid table side this year.

A “good” loss to Cas is a contradiction in terms. They have only beaten London, Hull and Salford so far this season. Any loss means Smith deserves to be heading for the exit. As for Frawley having a good game…….I can’t for the life of me understand how anyone could possibly imagine such an occurrence. He has nothing more to offer than we’ve already seen. What you may see is the little drop off pass routine to Cameron Smith on the 5th tackle who then runs into 3 defenders waiting for him. They are like the Leeds Rhinos version of the Chuckle Brothers. Anything other than a Rhinos victory by at least 12-15 points offers no hope whatsoever.

There needs to be a bigger margin of a win than that.Hull with the worst attack in the league,apart from london, put 4 tries against them last week.If the coach and players have not got the message after last week they never will.